“Please read the full interview.” That is the message that James Singer, a spokesperson for Joe Biden’s campaign, tweeted, linking to an extensive interview that the magazine did with him. time to former president of the United States, Donald Trump. For a candidate’s campaign to ask that what the rival candidate says be read is unusual. In this case, many Democrats have pointed to fragments or the completeness of Trump’s answers, that he reiterates some of the messages that he actually frequently launches at rallies with his followers. The former president assures that he will carry out mass deportations if he is elected and regarding the possibility of there being violence after the presidential elections, he says that there will not be any if he wins. If he loses, he “depends.”
Singer has not been the only one to point out Trump’s messages. Multiple Democratic spokespersons and officials have highlighted some fragments or the entire interview so that voters are not misled. “Trump has doubled down on inciting political violence and governing like a dictator if he wins in November. We should take him at his word,” California Senator Alex Padilla tweeted. “Given the opportunity to denounce political violence in his interview with Time, Donald Trump says that it depends on ‘if he loses.’ He will do it again,” Marco Frieri, another spokesperson for the Biden campaign, has written.
One of the most notable fragments of the interview is when the journalist reminds him that in a previous conversation he was not concerned about political violence in relation to the November elections. Because he was going to win. “What if he doesn’t win?” he asks her. “Well, I do think we are going to win. We have a lot of advantage. I don’t think they’re capable of doing the things they did last time, which were horrible. Absolutely horrible. “So many, many different things they did, that were in total violation of what was supposed to be happening,” Trump begins by answering, insisting on the hoax of the electoral theft of the 2020 presidential elections. “I think we are going to win. And if we don’t win, you know, it depends. It always depends on the cleanliness of a choice. I don’t think they’ll be able to do the things they did last time. I don’t think they can get away with it. And if that is the case, we are going to win in record fashion,” he continues.
Trump appears “absolutely” willing to consider pardoning those who participated in the assault on the Capitol on January 6, 2021. “If someone was evil and evil, I would see it differently. But many of those people came in, many of those people were guided. It is seen in the recording, the police accompany them. They are walking with the police,” he maintains, overlooking the violence with which the assault occurred.
Presidential immunity
In the interview, Trump defends the presidential immunity that he has claimed before the Supreme Court and assures that, if it is not granted and he wins the elections, Biden will be prosecuted. “If they say that a president has no immunity, then Biden, I am sure, will be prosecuted for all of his crimes, because he has committed many crimes,” he claims without any basis.
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The former president goes off on a tangent when asked if he shares his lawyer’s arguments that a president should have immunity even if he orders special forces to assassinate a political rival. “I understood it differently. I thought he was a political rival from another country. I think I understood it differently, and I’m not sure. And John Sauer [su abogado] He also said that first you go through a impeachmentand then that determination is made based on the impeachment. (…) Now, if you do something just openly very bad and very stupid, that’s a different situation. That may be one of those cases,” she answers. Trump is charged with 88 crimes and claims presidential immunity in his defense.
Mass deportations
In another fragment, the journalist asks him about the mass deportations of immigrants that he has promised if he wins and resorts to another of his favorite hoaxes. “I don’t think this is sustainable for a country, what’s happening to us, with probably 15 million and maybe even 20 million by the time Biden is out. “Twenty million people, many of them from jails, many of them from prisons, many of them from mental institutions,” he says without any basis.
After talking about the category that he has labeled “migrant crime,” he also talks about using the military, particularly the National Guard, for these mass deportations. When the journalist asks him if he would be willing to break the law that prohibits using the military against civilians, he answers: “Well, these are not civilians. They are people who are not legally in our country. This is an invasion of our country. An invasion like probably no country has seen before. They are arriving by the millions. I think we have 15 million now. And I think we will have 20 million by the time this is over.” At some rallies, Trump has even said that undocumented immigrants “cannot be called people.”
When asked again if he sees himself using the military for this, he says: “I see myself using the National Guard and, if necessary, I would have to go one step further. We have to do whatever it takes to stop the problem we have. (…) Yes, we have to do what we have to do to stop the crime and to stop what is happening on the border.”
They also ask him if he rules out building new migrant detention camps. “No, I wouldn’t rule anything out. But there wouldn’t be such a need for them, due to the fact that we are going to move them. Let’s take them back to where they came from,” he says. “We may do it to a certain extent, but we shouldn’t have to do it much,” he insists when asked.
In another of his authoritarian turns, he also states: “I want to give the police immunity from prosecution.” When the journalist asks him for explanations, he elaborates: “We have to give the police back the power and respect they deserve. Now, there will be some mistakes, and there are some bad people and that is a terrible thing. But there are many more problems with what is happening now. (…) The police are being prosecuted all the time. And we want to give them immunity from prosecution if they do their job.”
About abortion
Democrats have also drawn attention to his claims regarding abortion. Trump declines to speak openly on the issue, knowing that it is an issue that takes away votes from Republicans. He considers the ban on abortion after six weeks that comes into effect this week in Florida too harsh, but refuses to reveal what he will vote on in the referendum on abortion that will be held in Florida in November, at the same time as the elections. Trump also does not comment on the abortion pill mifepristone, whose use is being discussed in the Supreme Court.
Asked if he feels comfortable with the possibility of women being persecuted for having abortions after the ban, he answers: “The states are going to say. It’s irrelevant if I’m comfortable or not. It is totally irrelevant, because the states are going to make those decisions. And by the way, Texas is going to be different from Ohio. And Ohio will be different than Michigan. “I see what is happening.”
On another point, however, Trump says he is fine with letting states monitor women’s pregnancies to see if they have had abortions. Biden himself responded to that specific fragment: “This is unacceptable. Donald Trump doesn’t trust women. I do”, he has tweeted.
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